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I already talked with Philip Bradstock in the past on this issue.
Philip Bradstock claims that Phoenix City Code G-1403
requires people that shoot static still photos in Phoenix
city parks to get the $100 permit.
I got a copy of G-1403 from the Phoenix web site and read it.
The law says absolutely NOTHING about requiring people
that shoot static still photos to get a permit.
The law does require people who are shooting movies
for commercial reasons to get the permit.
But as I said we are not shooting movies. We were shooting
just still, static, non-commercial photos. And in addition to that
we are not shooting commercial photos. We are just private citizens
using our First Amendment rights to shoot photos which are not
for commercial use.
I suspect that Philip Bradstock or perhaps his predecessor
simply made up the law to raise money for his department.
I called up Philip Bradstock and told him that I thought he
gave me the wrong law because the law which he gave me
said nothing about shooting static still non-commercial photos.
Philip Bradstock told me that I was 100 percent correct and that
the law didn't say a word about shooting static, still photos and
that the law only addressed movies or motion pictures.
Philip Bradstock told me that despite the fact that the law doesn't
say a word about shooting static still photos, that the law says
that his department can set the administrative details about how
the law works and that his department decided to include static
still photos as part of the law and decided to require people who
shoot static still photos in Phoenix parks to also get the $100 permit.
If you ask me it sounds like he is giving me one big line of BS.
I am sure that if the Phoenix City Council members who passed the
law back in 1974 wanted the law to include static, still photos in it
they would have included static still photos in the wording of the
law.
Also I made a request for public records asking Philip Bradstock
for a law that covers static still photos several weeks ago.
According to the Arizona Public Records law which is
A.R.S. 39 § 121 you guys are supposed to respond to these
requests for public records as soon as possible.
Philip Bradstock has not given me the answer to that request for
public records and I assume he is in violation of that law.
What I am asking you for now, and what I have asked you for
before is this request for public records which is:
Is there any city of Phoenix law which requires a person to
get a permit to take still static photos in Phoenix Parks?
I been over 2 months since I started asking that question
and I can't see why you guys at the city of Phoenix are
taking so long to answer such a simple question.
One more time.
Is there any Phoenix law which requires people who
shoot static, still photos in Phoenix parks to get a permit?
Please give me the answer to that question as soon as
possible as required by A.R.S. 39 § 12.
Last but not least this isn't the first time I have seen
the city of Phoenix make up imaginary laws and try
to enforce them.
In many but not all Phoenix Parks there are signs posted saying
“No Shopping Carts Allowed - CC 24-26”
When you look up CC 24-26 in the Phoenix laws you will see that there is no law that bans shopping carts from Phoenix Parks.
CC 24-26 doesn’t even mention shopping carts.
CC 24-26 simply says it is illegal to operate bicycles and skateboards and other wheeled devices in a reckless manner that endangers people.
The exact wording of CC 24-26 says:
Sec. 24-26. Prohibition of wheeled devices in public parks.
A. No person shall operate a skateboard, conventional or in-line roller skates, bicycle, wagon, or other wheeled vehicle or device in a public park where one or more signs are posted prohibiting such activity, or in a manner which causes injury to any person or damage to public or private property.
And of course prior to that my friend Ricky Duncan discover that the Phoenix used
to post signs banning guns in Phoenix parks.
That was probably 20 years ago, before the courts allowed cities to ban guns in parks.
The law said something like:
No guns allowed in city parks - ARS 13-xxx
But then when you looked up ARS 13-xxx it didn't say a word about guns.
It said something like "no littering".
Again please quickly respond to my request for public records asking if there
are any city laws that require people who shoot static, still photos in city parks
to get a permit.
Thanks
| From: | toni.maccarone@phoenix.gov |
| To: | Carl Drega |
| CC: | kelly.dalton@phoenix.gov
Phoenix Mayor Greg Stanton
mayor.stanton@phoenix.gov
Philip Bradstock
Film Office
philip.bradstock@phoenix.gov
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| Date: | Sunday, November 11, 2012 6:43 PM |
| Subject: | Re: Is it legal to shoot still photos in Phoenix parks??? |
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Hello Mr. Drega,
I responded to you the day I received your email from the Mayor's office. I then put you in direct contact with the Phoenix Film Office manager, Philip Bradstock. I believe he also has been in contact with you.
Thank you.
Toni
Sent from my iPad
| From: | Carl Drega |
| To: | toni.maccarone@phoenix.gov
Phoenix Mayor Greg Stanton
mayor.stanton@phoenix.gov
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| Date: | Saturday, November 10, 2012 5:43 PM |
| Subject: | Re: Is it legal to shoot still photos in Phoenix parks??? |
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Dear Mayor Stanton and Toni Maccarone:
This is the fourth letter I have sent you making a request for public
records and you still have not answered my questions or giving
me the public records telling me about the laws I am asking for
information on.
The last letter I sent you was sent on Monday, November 5 at 1:33 PM.
You are almost certainly in violation of Arizona Public Records laws
which is A.R.S 39 §121.
A.R.S 39 §121 says requests for public records must be answered as
soon as possible. The first letter I sent you was on October 27. So
it's been over two weeks since I sent you my request.
If you guys expect us to obey the laws you pass it would be real nice
if you tell us what the laws are when we ask about them.
Here is a repeat of what I said in my last email. Please answer my
request for public records as soon as possible.
For what purpose were you shooting the photos?
As in My original letter I asked if there were ANY laws
that cover shooting photos of ANY KIND in Phoenix
city parks.
That would be still commercial photos, still non-commercial photos
and of course still photos shot by private citizens for their own
private use.
And of course that would also be motion pictures, or videos
shot for either commercial or non-commercial purposes.
And I don't want a yes or no answer.
I want the names and numbers of the laws passed by the
Phoenix Council that cover this issue.
I also want the names and numbers of any laws passed by
the Phoenix City Council that define the definition of
commercial and non-commercial and
If it was for a commercial purpose, for example a photo
shoot for a magazine ad, you would need a permit through
the city's Film Office.
OK that is what I want. Can you tell me what law numbers in
the Phoenix City Code cover this issue?
If you were simply a visitor to the park snapping some
photos for your memories, of course you wouldn't need a permit.
That is what I thought that you don't need to get a permit or
pay the city of Phoenix any money to shoot private photos
in a city park.
Can you give me the numbers of any laws in the city of Phoenix
code that cover taking pictures in parks by private citizens,
if there are any?
Thanks
| From: | Carl Drega |
| To: | toni.maccarone@phoenix.gov
Phoenix Mayor Greg Stanton
mayor.stanton@phoenix.gov
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| Date: | Monday, November 5, 2012 1:33 PM |
| Subject: | Re: Is it legal to shoot still photos in Phoenix parks??? |
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For what purpose were you shooting the photos?
As in My original letter I asked if there were ANY laws
that cover shooting photos of ANY KIND in Phoenix
city parks.
That would be still commercial photos, still non-commercial photos
and of course still photos shot by private citizens for their own
private use.
And of course that would also be motion pictures, or videos
shot for either commercial or non-commercial purposes.
And I don't want a yes or no answer.
I want the names and numbers of the laws passed by the
Phoenix Council that cover this issue.
I also want the names and numbers of any laws passed by
the Phoenix City Council that define the definition of
commercial and non-commercial and
If it was for a commercial purpose, for example a photo
shoot for a magazine ad, you would need a permit through
the city's Film Office.
OK that is what I want. Can you tell me what law numbers in
the Phoenix City Code cover this issue?
If you were simply a visitor to the park snapping some
photos for your memories, of course you wouldn't need a permit.
That is what I thought that you don't need to get a permit or
pay the city of Phoenix any money to shoot private photos
in a city park.
Can you give me the numbers of any laws in the city of Phoenix
code that cover taking pictures in parks by private citizens,
if there are any?
Thanks
| From: | toni.maccarone@phoenix.gov |
| To: | Phoenix Mayor Greg Stanton
mayor.stanton@phoenix.gov
Carl Drega |
| CC: | Phoenix Mayor Greg Stanton
mayor.stanton@phoenix.gov
Carl Drega |
| Date: | Friday, November 2, 2012 6:50 PM |
| Subject: | Re: Is it legal to shoot still photos in Phoenix parks??? |
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Hello Mr. Drega,
I am happy to try to help answer your question. For what purpose were you shooting the photos? If it was for a commercial purpose, for example a photo shoot for a magazine ad, you would need a permit through the city's Film Office. If you were simply a visitor to the park snapping some photos for your memories, of course you wouldn't need a permit. Please help clarify.
Thank you.
Toni
Sent from my iPad
| From: | Carl Drega |
| To: | Phoenix Mayor Greg Stanton
mayor.stanton@phoenix.gov
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| Date: | Friday, November 2, 2012 2:03 PM |
| Subject: | Re: Is it legal to shoot still photos in Phoenix parks??? |
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Mayor Stanton:
A week ago on Saturday, October 27 at 2:31 I sent you
an email asking for public records relating to the laws
that Phoenix has making it illegal to shoot photos in
Papago Park unless you get a permit.
You still have not responded to my request for public
records and are almost certainly in violation of
Arizona Public Record law which is A.R.S 39 §121
and says that requests for public records must be
answer as soon as possible.
Can you please answer my request for public records
as soon as possible.
Prior to that I sent you another email asking for public
records and you have not responded to that email either.
Thanks
| From: | Carl Drega |
| To: | Phoenix Mayor Greg Stanton
mayor.stanton@phoenix.gov
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| Date: | Saturday, October 27, 2012 2:31 PM |
| Subject: | Is it legal to shoot still photos in Phoenix parks??? |
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Mayor Stanton:
We were told that it was illegal to shoot still photos in Phoenix Parks
unless you got a permit from the city of Phoenix and paid a $100 fee.
Is that true?
If it is true can you tell me what the law number is and send me a copy of the law?
Thanks
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